immune cells

LindaTN · Regular Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 42

On Yahoo health news this morning there was a interesting study being done by Stanford U School of Medicene that perhaps examing the immune cells in the lymph nodes will predict the outcome of bc. New tests predict lymph nodes immune cells almost perfectly predict clinical outcome of who will need a more aggressive treatment. Is the immune system the answer to cancer? The alternative Drs have said so for years. If these folks would get their heads together maybe we would find a cure for cancer. Someday chemo will be looked at like witch oil but in the mean time might be necessary. I watched my father-in-law die of stomach cancer many years ago, he refused surgery, took chemo. Chemo did kill him the VA Dr told the family they knew he was going to die so they just thought they would see how much chemo he could stand. It was terrible thank heavens I do feel we have come a very very long way from those days. This man fought for four years overseas in world war 11 he deserved better then that. Ask questions trust no one to your health but yourself, if you are happy with your treatments go for it full steam ahead and don't look back. Eat right keep that immune system strong, be happy, angry is hard on the immune sysytem. Laugh a lot and mean it. I'm generally on CSN and we discuss many many things and keep a very open mind. Lets clean up our air, water, and soil. Remember when Isreal stopped all pesticides their cancer rate was cut in half. God Bless Linda

Muttsmom · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:25 am Post subject: Re: immune cells

Remember when Isreal stopped all pesticides their cancer rate was cut in half

I don't think many, if any don't think pesticides play a part when it comes to cancer. Those kind of poisons do no good and can definately do hard. They've pulled alot off the shelves, but many more out there. Of course that doesn't explain 50 years ago when all the chemicals for produce etc weren't even around and people were still getting BC and other types.
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Stage IIIA er/pr+ Her2-
2/02 MRM
FECx6 radsx33
Tamoxifen - Arimidex (chemo induced menopause)
4/03 SM w/bilat. recon.
9/03 expanders removed
5/04 repair reconst. disaster
10/04 Actonel for bone/joint pain from Arimidex
NED - 5 years
3/07 Diabetes
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LindaTN · Regular Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 42

I was eleven years old fifty years ago and we were every night all summer spraying every dairy cow in the barn with DDT and often spraying ourselves to keep the flies off of us when we milked. 150 years ago there was no pesticides and cancer was almost unknown. Read Silent Spring if you can find a copy and you will see what we have done to ourselves. God Bless Linda

Muttsmom · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: Re: immune cells

I wasn't even a thought in my parents minds 50 years ago, but I do remember DDT, so it must have been used for many many years. I know there is no history of cancer of any kind in my family, I'm just the lucky one......NOT.

When I was dx 3 1/2 years ago, it was 1 out of 9 women would get BC, now it's 1 out of 7. Maybe one day the government will realize there's an epidemic out there called cancer and will start taking care of us more then every other country.
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Nancy
2/14/02 ILC 43 - 5.5 cm 9+/16 nodes
Stage IIIA er/pr+ Her2-
2/02 MRM
FECx6 radsx33
Tamoxifen - Arimidex (chemo induced menopause)
4/03 SM w/bilat. recon.
9/03 expanders removed
5/04 repair reconst. disaster
10/04 Actonel for bone/joint pain from Arimidex
NED - 5 years
3/07 Diabetes
In memory of Kim 12/1/04

LindaTN · Regular Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 42

We do indeed need to look at very way of treating cancer. Lance Armstrong did many things chemo was just one. He is a mighty strong, well conditioned man my bet is his immune sysytem is tops! I wear a yellow bracklet that says Livestrong, he has the ear of the president so maybe he will raise money for finding a cure and more important why people are getting cancer at the rate we are. I also was the luck of the draw and had nine aunts so you figure! Susan Love in her book memtions we should be studing diet starting in our childhood, fats concern her. All of this needs studying not more chemo! If Lance lived because of chemo why did Jane Plants cancer come back four times, she was told nothing more could be done for her but more chemo so she could live a bit longer. She changed her diet etc and is alive many years later. I have no answers for this but we need to find a reason for cancer. The people in Africa do not have cancer but on rare occasions. Is it their diet, the fact they are backwards and don't have pesticide, excercise more, beats me but wish someone would study that also. Blessed Day Linda

Muttsmom · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: immune cells

Lance Armstrong was in great shape when he was dx and had been eating healthy. Personally, I have no doubt that the chemo killed his cancer. Will it come back, who knows. No one knows if or when they will have a reoccurence regardless of stage. All I know is he's alive and doing great. I have no doubt had I not had chemo, I would have been gone a couple of years ago. I did what my onco recommended, I did alot of research and I'm here 3 1/2 years later.
Everyone needs to do what is best for them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I personally also don't think it's healthy to dwell on the disease and to enjoy life, so having said that. Someone else will have to debate with you on this topic. I do know the longer someone goes without a reoccurence, the better chance they have of beating it again if it does come back. Those who have reoccuences within the 1st couple of years, usually don't do well because treatment wasn't as effective. I could get run over by a car tonight and die. There are no guarentees in life, but I'm going to do what gives me the best chance.
Have a good day.
I'm off to do something besides think and talk about cancer, and no, that's not called burying my head in the sand, it's called " Life after cancer"
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Nancy
2/14/02 ILC 43 - 5.5 cm 9+/16 nodes
Stage IIIA er/pr+ Her2-
2/02 MRM
FECx6 radsx33
Tamoxifen - Arimidex (chemo induced menopause)
4/03 SM w/bilat. recon.
9/03 expanders removed
5/04 repair reconst. disaster
10/04 Actonel for bone/joint pain from Arimidex
NED - 5 years
3/07 Diabetes
In memory of Kim 12/1/04

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