Immune System Booster

tmrobbins76 · New User Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 1

I battled Hodgkins Disease about 20 years ago. Due to the disease, my spleen was removed, therefore as an adult my body can't fight off colds, etc... I need an herb or vitamin that is proven to boost my immune system and help me stay healthier and cancer free. There are so many advertised, I want one that is recommended by an Ocologist preferrably. Thanks.

leo · Site Admin Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1574

Hello

Thanks for posting. Unfortunatelly there are no "immune system boosters" that actually work. The best thing is to stay well nourished, and take any of these multivitamins. While there is a lot of marketing going on for these herbs and vitamins, there are none that actually make a big difference.

best regards,
Leo
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research · New User Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 3

Hello

I just found this messsage board.

The information from the writer that there are "no immune system boosters" is incorrect.

I could include a link to Canadian and United States medical patents for Immune system boosting.

And I could post links to medical patents granted for the treatment and prevention of cancer.

Best wishes from Toronto Western Hospital research.

Smile

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leo · Site Admin Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1574

Well, there are no over the counter immunse system boosters. The are a lot of people out there trying to sell stuff to people with cancer. So beware. There are a few drugs such as Neulasta that increase the white blood counts, but not much else.

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Leo
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research · New User Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 3

Hello again.

Sorry but you are not correct.
There are 'over the counter' products with medical patents granted for the improvment of the immune system.

Best wishes.
Research
Toronto Western Hospital research.

RossBennett · New User Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1

[quote="tmrobbins76"]I battled Hodgkins Disease about 20 years ago. Due to the disease, my spleen was removed, therefore as an adult my body can't fight off colds, etc... I need an herb or vitamin that is proven to boost my immune system and help me stay healthier and cancer free. There are so many advertised, I want one that is recommended by an Ocologist preferrably. Thanks.[/quote]

Yes there are definitely immunity boosters out there that do work and have been proven to do so. The better ones also combine fatty acids, antioxidants, and several potent vitamans as well as working on balancing your immune system. More often than not it is this imbalance that leaves us susceptable to cancers and degenerative diseases. In respect to the nature of this forum I won't list products for you but you are more than welcome to contact me at the address below.
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liberybell · New User Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 6

[First of all, let me apologize for my writing. No to offer this as a justification but as a clarification, I would like for the reader to keep in mind that English is not my first language, and even though my vocabulary is plenty my grammar is terrible]
TMROBBINS76, yes boosting your immune system would definitely help you to prevent and in many case to cure degenerative diseases, but it is extremely important that you study and learn as much as you can about the complex functions that your immune system is in charge of. You should research and understand that your immune system maintains its integrity when there is good balance of nutrition, oxygenation and detoxification, keeping that balance is not easy task (http://terrasig.blogspot.com/2006/03/small-lesson-for-alternative-medicine.html.) Once you have learn as much as you can about your immune system you should look into the most suitable ways within your lifestyle to obtain balance nutrition, balance oxygenation and balance detoxification. In many cases people failed to boost their immune system, and therefore to stay healthy, because they are trying to mimic what somebody else is doing without considering how well that may fit within their lifestyle, or they are looking for a “magic” pill that would do it all.
I can tell you what I do to try to keep my immune system in good shape (actually is a merely decent shape Smile

, which I do not think is enough, but it is what my lifestyle and budget allows me. That does not mean that you should do the same things but that you should research on it:
- I try to eat meat only once a week. High levels of animal protein (above 10% daily intake) have been proven to increase the chance of cancer (read/view Dr. T Colin Campbell’s research http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1308977765978236346) but I was raise in a country where meat is a big part of our gastronomy. So it is impossible for me to become a vegan. I try my best to considerate this piece of information that I have researched and learned but without throwing my lifestyle out the window over it.
- I also make a strong effort to keep “manufacture” food and fast foods out of my diet. Nevertheless a Carl’s Junior hamburger like the new jalapeño burger, some in a while (once every other month or less) is irresistible Wink

I am though aware of their damaging effects and their high levels of fat, animal protein and toxins (http://www.carlsjr.com/nutrition/) so I try to compensate whenever I can’t resist the temptation Smile

- I try to take fresh organic vegetable juices (yes, I have a juicer) and follow Dr. Gerson recommendations about how important is to take the juice freshly made (non-refrigerated.) My lifestyle and my budget do not allow me to take as many juices as I would like, but I do take in account the knowledge. (I am actually translating Dr. Gerson’s book “A Cancer Therapy” to my maternal language. What it is allowing me to learn more about the power of juicing.)
- I am a big believer on Vitamin C. There is not clear research in the benefit of Vitamin C and the right dosage. Doctors think that 90mg is more than sufficient. So while the gods of health (doctors) make their mind about vitamin C, I decide to use myself as Ginny pig. In the last five years I have been taking dosages of 2500mg daily during the winter and up to 5000mg when feeling cold symptoms. I have not had the need for antibiotics (not that I would take them anyway) for the last five years. That does not mean that Vitamin C is the panacea for infections and colds, what it means is that for me and my lifestyle a high dosage of vitamin C helps my immune system to fight the usual colds and infections, for others it may not be that way, but I certainly urge you to look into it.
- I also take vitamin B complex, folic acid, Vitamin D, Cod liver oil, liver capsules and other vitamins and minerals whenever I can get them based on my budget. I would say that in average I take one dosage of these vitamins every other day or every three day (no sure, I do not keep track of it.) I do not make a high priority, considering my lifestyle, to take these vitamins religiously on a daily basis. I am aware though of their benefits and always open to learn more about their benefits and their risk to the integrity of my immune system.
- My latest research area is detoxification. I am reading a lot about coffee enemas ( I have posted some messages here regarding the detoxification effects of coffee enemas.) I am currently taking two coffee enemas (http://www.sawilsons.com/) a week. And I have really noticed the benefits of it. Nevertheless, my understanding and knowledge on detoxification is too little in order to do more than two enemas a week. And I want to approach cautiously to this due to the huge effort that my liver must make in order to extract the toxins and send them out of the body. Detoxification is very important, as important as nutrition, but I do not want to overwork my liver doing so. That can put at risk the overall integrity of the immune system (remember the liver is our most vital organ.) In other words, I know I have to detoxify but I am not going to compromise the integrity of my immune system in order to have zero levels of toxins in my body. Most of all because it is impossible to do so when living in such a highly-toxic society.
- Oxygenation. This one is a tough one. The best way to provide proper oxygen to my body in my opinion, is by breading good air. Our body has a ‘procedure’ (respiratory system) to put oxygen in the cells. In my opinion, making sure that this ‘procedure’ works as good as possible is the best way to oxygenize my body. So I make an effort to travel to near mountains (I am a mountain biker) once a week and exercise every other day or so early in the morning to avoid the high levels of pollution. I have not been able to look into some other “cosmetic” ways to oxygenize my body, what it does not means that I am ignoring those options.
CONCLUSION: The only thing that I am sure of regarding the improvement of my immune system, is that I need to learn more. And that after I think I have learn enough I am sure there would be more to learn. (The old Greek philosophical approach of “I only know that I know nothing”)

LEO, I disagree with you completely, but I understand where you are coming from.
LEO, you probably have a high knowledge of traditional medicine and you probably believe strongly in the need for “official” clinical trials to be conducted in order to prove any treatment. The problem with the traditional medicine clinical trials for alternative treatments, in general, is that they are extremely costly and there are not “profitable”(most of all in USA.)
To conduct the cancer clinical trials that Dr. Gerson, for example, performed back in the 30s and 40s would probably be almost impossible from the cost perspective for many of the cancer research clinics today. No to mention the fact that if a good cancer preventive and curative treatment would be brought into the “market” that would directly affect the stockholders of those same research centers and the so called “health” institutions (no ‘customers’ no business) It makes sense that these corporations, which follow the same capitalistic rules as any other corporation in any other industry, have as the first priority to survive and to increase their profits, and then and only if it does not conflict with the first priority, to provide the best “products” (treatments) possible to their “customers” (patients). When have you seen a corporation that works hard at reducing the number of “customers” that it provide “services” to?...

RESEARCH, thanks to the fact that you guys in Canada have a social health system it seems to me that you guys have the “freedom” to look into alternative treatments without worrying about the impact of those treatments to your “budget.” Please correct me if I wrong about this. I would appreciate if you can provide some links and details about research being conducted on alternative treatment in Canada. Thanks!
I apologize for the lengthy message.
Thanks for reading.
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dre · New User Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 4

for those of you trying supplements, just be aware that the rules governing supplements are not the same as for food or drug. By this I mean that the companies do not, by law, have to put what's on the label in the pot (not all tablets will contain the same things at the same levels) and they don't have to put what's in the pot on the label. I know it sounds stupid and illegal, but the law is different for supplements.
The time you can trust the label is when the company can say that they produce their products to pharmaceutical grade. This is a very costly process so your £3.50 pot of vitamins from your local health food shop probably won't be made to pharmaceutical standards. I use one of the companies that do make products to pharmaceutical standards, let me know if you want more info.

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