Rick Simpson's Run From the Cure

phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

Greetings all.

Since this constitutes an initial post,

It will require an "exception" by the admin because it includes various addresses below. I cannot create the hyperlinks properly as the html is OFF.

[quote]So.... this may or may not make it to public viewing. However, it deserves to and should be considered on the merits of the research and the testimonies included, and not merely disregarded as "anecdotal" and not "science"..... I post and try to put the info out for a good healthy discussion.
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There are other articles and reports to be future posted, but I guess we'll see if this makes it to public viewing.

Blessings to all,
phoenixtears

ps... none of the coding appears to be working (bold, etc.)... sorry
I'll be glad to fix it if the admin will "enable" me.
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I'll leave it as it is, till i look into it with more detail. And get Jim's approval too.

Thanks for the information. I'll try to do as soon as i can.

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phoenixtears, I am sorry but I cannot approve of you posting those links because they violate 2 of our policies: No links and No Solicitation (at least your Subject gives the impression that the links contain requests to help in this run).

True, I could give you an exception to the policies. However, if I did make an exception for you I would first have to review the links. It would also mean that I would have to review links posted be every new member who wanted to post a link. I really do not have the time to do that. Sorry.

Hang in there for a month, post 10 significant messages and then you can use links.
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I agree with Jim- sorry phoenixtears. I hope you understand.

As it is Jim spends most of the day and night doing new member request and viewing posts that need replying. I'm sure you can see, once you do it once, we have to do it to all.

Thank you for the information- please post it again in a month.
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

Thank you both for being responsive and polite.

As to your concern Jim regarding solicitation.... Actually, the entire film is about the altruistic efforts of Canadian citizen Rick Simpson, a cheerful 60 something year old man.

ESSENTIAL OIL EXTRACT

He provided a simple essential oil extract for friends and neighbors. Free.

Dosage was about the size of a grain of rice twice a day.

He watched people get well.

The film is his story and worth watching.

"Rick Simpson: Run From the Cure"
http://www.youtube.com/user/chrychek
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Thank You for Understanding and not feeling as if this is a personal attack.

It sounds interesting, and I will be having a look- sometime.
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

To all who may want to share this film, I have it on DVD.

I think it plays in "all regions"..... I'll have to check that out.

You can PM/email and I can provide a copy at minimal charge.

PhoenixTears
phoenixtears at hushmail.com
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Jotto · Regular Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 47 Location: Biloxi MS

Always something to read about. I am impressed that there is about 200 abstracts in PubMed.

I am doing some reading on it now.

J Natl Cancer Inst. 2008 Jan 2;100(1):59-69. Epub 2007 Dec 25.
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Inhibition of cancer cell invasion by cannabinoids via increased expression of tissue inhibitor of matrix metalloproteinases-1.

CONCLUSION: Increased expression of TIMP-1 mediates an anti-invasive effect of cannabinoids. Cannabinoids may therefore offer a therapeutic option in the treatment of highly invasive cancers.

There are many things that are natural that help fight cancer, yet very few are in clinical trials. All cancers seem to have one thing in common, no cure. The day after your treatment they can't say your cancer free and it will not come back. My fear is that in developing a cure or vaccine the cancer will then adapt to the treatment and a new one will have to be made.

Cancer must be attacked in multiple pathways not just a single one. Since there was no cure for my cancer, what options did the doctors leave me? We all become somewhat of experts in the cancer we have, how come our doctors knowledge is limited to various types of chemo? I decided on a novel treatment, with my doctors approval. That is funny they know little about what I am doing, it seems more doctors overseas are interested in the novel approaches people are doing then the doctors in the U.S.

One of the biggest problems is bioavailability, how much of this will actually make it to the blood stream where it is needed. The next problem is a lot of people get drug tested at random and when getting a new job. It won't matter if you have a prescription, they will go with federal law.

Right now a program is getting ready to kick off in the UK with a daisy, its called DMAPT and is hopeful in many areas of cancer. The biggest problem is we don't have time to wait on them, we have to be the pioneers.
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

I am still a newbie to this forum but can now post an occasional link to
those that are following this thread. I have edited this post to now include the link to click and download.

This is a (condensed) MP3 audio interview with Rick Simpson on March 09, 2008.

http://207.44.144.49/~ronpaula/SimpsonF2F.mp3

It was basically a talk show chat with Rick Simpson by phone from Canada.

Even condensed it was still about 90 minutes long.
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

I thought I would clarify something on a personal note:

I am 56 years old, raised a family and am now a grandfather 3 times over.
I haven't smoked pot in over 30 years.... and still don't.

Smoking is probably the LEAST medicinal way to use this plant.
I'd never heard of ingesting the essential oil.... and apparently I'm not alone.

The dosage levels for effective use of the oil as an curative, broadbased treatment against disease and maladies need not get one "high".

I have completely abandoned the preconception that this battle is about a legal excuse for "potheads to get high".

This is a much more serious issue about people being able to help themselves and produce a powerful, effective medicine cheaply without need of Pharma or Government.

Some of my anchor thoughts picked up along the way:

1. How long does it take to "study" one plant?
2. Why, if in the late 1800's, Eli-Lilly (and others) were selling tinctures of the essential oil (diluting with alcohol) as medicine, are we not further along in this process of "study".
3. Why dilute?
4. A plant cannot be patented.
5. Why synthesize something that a plant offers naturally at an effective curative strength?
6. Synthetics can be patented.
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brainman · Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: On a personal note:

I can answer all of these questions. I have a BS in Chemistry, worked on a Masters in Pharmacognosy (study of medicines from plat sources), and worked for 5 years for Abbott Labs. The questions are yours... the answers are mine.

Q1. How long does it take to "study" one plant?

A1. It takes a very long time to find a potential plant, isolate it active ingredient, prove that it is save, and prove that is does what people hope that it will do. It can take many years and hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Q2. Why, if in the late 1800's, Eli-Lilly (and others) were selling tinctures of the essential oil (diluting with alcohol) as medicine, are we not further along in this process of "study".

A2. Most of what Eli-Lilly and others were selling were not safe or effective back in the 1800's. Some essential oils are still available over the counter in any drug store/grocery store. 70% of current medications come from natural sources.

Q3. Why dilute?

A3. I think a story can answer this question the best. My major professor hear that North American natives used Queen Ann's Lace (a common North American weed) to ease tooth aches. He thought the the active ingredient had to potential to be used for anesthesia. So he took a bunch of the plant, extracted all the water soluble components, and started the long process of isolating each of the components in the solution. As the solution passed through the filtration columns, he checked for the active ingredient by wetting his finger and touching it to his tongue. Finally, the active ingredient came through but when he touched it to his tongue, his tongue started to burn like hell! The diluted version used by the native north americans worked because it was diluted and not by actually killing the pain but by introducing something that burned so much that the tooth pain seemed insignificant in comparison. That is just one example of "why dilute."

Q4. A plant cannot be patented.

A4. No, plants cannot be patented but the process to isolate and purify and to standardize the active ingredient can.

Q5. Why synthesize something that a plant offers naturally at an effective curative strength?

A5. Although 70% of current medications are found in nature, they are found in such small quantities that without synthesizing them, we would not have enough for the world's demand... aspirin is a good example of this. Another, Vincristine, a chemotherapy agent, comes from the common house plant Periwinkle (Vinca family). However, it is found in such a low dose that a person would need to eat a dangerously large amount of the plant in order to get one dose of the synthetic version.

Q6. Synthetics can be patented.

A6. Not use that this is a question or a statement. Look at A4 for the answer to this one.

Hope this answers some of your concerns. Obviously, there is a place for plants in our nutrition and health. However, it can be very dangerous to use them as medicines.[/list]
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

Thinking out loud...

I appreciate your comments/responses Jim. Thank you.

One of the things that impresses me about the plant is how unique it appears to be in a few aspects. I'm not an expert, but I'm learning and reading.

The first thing that strikes me is it's power tempered with it being somewhat benign at the same time.

Here we have a plant literally "frosted" with the medicine which is the "active ingredient". Naturally.

The curative power and applications of this active ingredient (THC and other phytocannabinoids) continues to be "discovered" by medical science as they witness the interaction with disease. Not only that, but they are specific.... designed ONLY for the cannabinoid receptors in our bodies having to do with our immune system.

There are NO other plants on Earth that can offer cannabinoids..... and our receptors are specifically "looking" for them. When they find them, they then begin to trigger amazing effects at a cellular level..... shutting things down in cancer cells, creating oxidation and aptosis in cancer cells only and leaving normal cells unharmed by affecting the neural/signal pathways.... again, at the cellular level.

So, we have this unique powerful medicine that needs no refining or augmentation..... no need for "hundreds" of plants to create a curative strength. It naturally occurs at the "right" dosage.

Second, it's not poisonous. It is not poison based like other "medicinal" plants that will kill you if you don't disable or refine away the poisonous properties or over dose the active ingredient(s).

It is not rare. It is not fragile. It doesn't just grow in a rainforest somewhere. In fact, it can grow almost everywhere and be plentiful.

How many medicines (synthetic or otherwise) can match it's apparent POWER against an array of serious human disease, be SAFE for consumption (who ever DIED from an overdose of pot?) and be PLENTIFUL and AVAILABLE to the poor?
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phoenixtears · Regular Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 17

Greetings All....

I have received several very encouraging emails from people who are wanting to share this information with others..... and they are EXCITED!!
Good!
It took courage to make this film and it deserves to be shared.

Here is a link that offers the full movie, both streaming and download:

http://www.phoenixtearsmovie.com/

Please feel free to share here or email me with your "stories".... I treasure every single one.

Blessings to all!!
phoenixtears
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