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rade New User
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: gall bladder cancer & alternative medicine |
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Hi.
My friend's mom was diagnosed with stage 4 gall bladder cancer a couple of days ago. She's in her fifties.
My friend is desperately seeking alternative medicine. somebody recommended the followings:
Wobenzym N Clear
Advanced Enzyme System
Chlorella from Yaeyama powder
Organic Spirulina Crystal Flakes
Cleanse Cayenne Extract (Hot)
Cleanse Lobelia Alcohol Extract
Cleanse Liver & Gall Bladder
SCAM FRUIT
BioBran
Gamma-Zyme
Goji juice
I'd like to ask you these:
1. Would this list help extend her life?
2. If not, would it help reduce pain?
Any comment would be very much appreciated. |
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Vee Smith Moderator
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 685 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: gall bladder cancer & alternative medicine |
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You don't mention if your friend's mother has been offered conventional treatment, and if so, what kind. Nor why they are considering alternative methods. If she is stage 4, which other organs have been affected?
Nothing in the list you give is likely to control pain, and there is no way to tell if this protocol will extend life. However, Biobran and Goji juice may well help the immune system.
Whatever, nothing should be done without consulting a holistic doctor for advice if the alternative route is the one decided on. |
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rade New User
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: Re: gall bladder cancer & alternative medicine |
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The cancer spread into liver and duodenum. My friend was told that surgery was not an option and that chemotherapy or radiation therapy would not be effective. The doctor said his mother has 6 months to live.
[quote="Vee Smith"]Nothing in the list you give is likely to control pain, and there is no way to tell if this protocol will extend life. However, Biobran and Goji juice may well help the immune system.[/quote]
Thank you, Smith. I much appreciate your opinion. And I also would like to say my friend will see a few holistic doctors soon. |
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juice New User
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: Re: gall bladder cancer & alternative medicine |
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it can be ordered here www.ojayjohnson.freelife.com
juicesgoji@hotmail.com for more info
thanx
ojay
Last edited by juice on Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:36 am; edited 1 time in total |
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mikes Senior User
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 143
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: Re: gall bladder cancer & alternative medicine |
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Mr. Juice,
Here is a copy of the post made by Brainman (the moderator) when this Alternative Medicine forum was set up:
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Dear fellow members of The Cancer Forums,
I am honored to serve you as Forums Moderator. The task seems a bit overwhelming at times. However, I am grateful to Dr. Leo for entrusting me with this task.
Some of you may have noticed over the last few days some tension on the Forums. To whatever extent I contributed to that tension, I would like to apologize. I know that the last thing most of us need is more distress in our lives.
There are a number of things which I will not tolerate: advertisements and personal attacks are on the top of my list. However, it is about what I will tolerate that I wish to talk to you. I am a believer in traditional medicine. I will not deny that fact. However, I do understand the limits of traditional medicine. Traditional medicine has not solved the “cancer problem” we face. Nevertheless, I continue to trust in the work of our doctors, whether in a research lab or an oncology office. I know of no finer gentlemen and ladies than those who dedicated their lives to the art of medicine. They spend countless hours that we, the patients, do not see working to find the best possible treatment for each of us. Are they just in it for the money? Maybe a few. But the vast majority work hard because they really do want to help and because the really do hate cancer.
Having said that, let me continue and say I am not opposed to messages about alternatives to traditional medicine. In many cases, what we now think of as traditional medicine began as alternative medicine. One of the medications I took as traditional chemotherapy was Vincristine. For centuries, the plant from which Vincristine was originally extracted was used by medicine men, which doctors, shamans, etceteras for all kinds of things. So, if you want to talk about the beneficial effects of bamboo tea, who am I to object?
I will object, however, if your reason is to:
1. Discredit traditional medicine and/or
2. To sell “bamboo tea.”
I know many of you have had less than ideal experiences with traditional medicine. We can even talk about that. Let us discuss these experiences with a degree of respect and civility toward each other. Traditional medicine worked for me. It may not for you or your loved one. “Bamboo tea” may work for you, but it does not work for me.
As Forum Moderator, there are two big issues I look for:
1. Are you trying to sell or make a profit from the Forum?
2. Are you treating others and are you being treated with respect and civility?
Let me repeat that I am more than honored to serve you as Moderator. If you have any questions, please feel free to send me a PM or email. I do not, cannot, respond to every thread. Since I am not a doctor, I tend to stick with what I know. Also, if others are responding to you, I may seek out those who have been overlooked. However, I carry each of you in my thoughts, prayers, and heart all the time."
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Every post you have made has been an unabashed sales pitch to your web site for the purpose of seling your product.
You are obviously "trying to sell or make a profit from the Forum" in violation of the rules.
The people using this forum are often under great stress and are looking for helpful suggestions and support, not a commercial. |
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