The Kanzius Machine

brainman · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: The Kanzius Machine

I just watched a 60 Minutes segment about a cancer patient who has developed a that uses radio waves to potentially kill cancer cells. Its concept has been proven but it is still many years from being used on people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml
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Vee Smith · Moderator Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 633 Location: UK

Thanks for the link, Jim.

The interesting thing is that the University of Pittsburgh and MD Anderson in Houston were testing this in 2005 - so have things moved on substantially, or what has triggered this new report?

brainman · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Kanzius Machine

It sounds like the research has progressed to the point of at lest drawing interest from the media. Hopefully, it is more than just that.

As you know, I never talk about a "cure" for any type of cancer. This does sound like a promising treatment option for the future.

To all of you who think that a poor prognosis is a death sentence, there is always a possibility of a new break through that will extend your life.
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florist · Guest

Hey Brainman,
I read this article and it is the same idea that Dr. Coley (history Cancer Research Institue) came up with that was stopped. It is too bad that there is not a way to see how many people with cancer have allowed their fevers to reach 103 and how many improved without radiation or chemo.

Also, how they were able to build their immune systems to raise their fevers or did they come down with something. We both know too that there is a fine line between 103 and 105 which is danger.

Sure will be watching this too.

samilozavar · New User Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 5

The Kanzius Machine uses Radio Waves to directly destruct cancer cells. It will definitely be helpful in the short run but in most cases such systems with direct damage to the cells including radiotherapy will not prevent the diesease to recur in a more aggressive manner.

The Kanzius approach has the potential to be a much better alternative to cytotoxic chemotherapy, raditotherapy and surgery for many patients though still with limitations.
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GEMM device generates radio waves at selective frequencies to directly communicate with target proteins in the cancer cells that leads to apoptosis and necrosis.

florist · Guest

I have read about the radio wave GEMM and am very interested to know if this has shown to increase immune systems. Also, I noticed the tests for osteoporosis. When my friend and I started using a food supplement, I went with her to what they called MannaFest and for anyone who wanted to have a bone dinstity test done and agreed to have one taken yearly to see how it worked for many people. Anyway, the second year her test showed 60% improvement and she was totally blown away as her Mom and brother both died of this. She drank milk took meds in the past but never showed any improvement until the supplement.

I wondered if the supplements and adding this treatment would just work together. Also, is there more about this and is it in America as yet?

I have visited with a cellular biologist from OSU and she said she knew if someone could discover a way to make our cells communicate properly, it would do away with disease with proper nutrient.

samilozavar · New User Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 5

[quote="florist"]I have read about the radio wave GEMM and am very interested to know if this has shown to increase immune systems. Also, I noticed the tests for osteoporosis. When my friend and I started using a food supplement, I went with her to what they called MannaFest and for anyone who wanted to have a bone dinstity test done and agreed to have one taken yearly to see how it worked for many people. Anyway, the second year her test showed 60% improvement and she was totally blown away as her Mom and brother both died of this. She drank milk took meds in the past but never showed any improvement until the supplement.

I wondered if the supplements and adding this treatment would just work together. Also, is there more about this and is it in America as yet?

I have visited with a cellular biologist from OSU and she said she knew if someone could discover a way to make our cells communicate properly, it would do away with disease with proper nutrient.[/quote]

GEMM is not used to boost immune system in order to deal with cancer cells. There are roughly 8 billions of proteins in a particular cell and they have almost 10,000 different types. Proteins are responsible for cellular communication. Their unique 3 dimensional folding is the key on how they communicate.

A brilliant scientist named Irena Cosic already showed in her Resonant Recognition Model that proteins can interact with each other at a distance with radio waves at specific resonant frequencies.

In case of cancer, Dr Gorgun who developed the GEMM system hypothesized that when there is a damage to the glycoprotein sensors at the surface of mitochondrias in a cells are damaged, they loose their specificity. In turn they continuosly trigger ATP (energy) production in the cell that leads to a forced, premature, uncontrolled mitosis. GEMM sends out a very specific signal at the resonant frequency of this particular malfunctioning glycoprotein sensor to block its activity completely. At the same time via a separate radio signal GEMM blocks the glycolysis reaction, another preferred method of energy production in a cancer cells. Without energy cancer cells starve todeath and they commit suicide by a mechanism called apoptosis. At no stage of this application immune system is involved.

Your query regarding Osteoporosis is a totally different story. Calcium is the most abundant atom in our body and we use it not only as a building block of our bones, but it is involved in thousands of different reactions and it is generally called a secondary messenger. For this reason we have a system where the calcium is constantly removed from the bones and then put back into the bones by osteoblasts and osteoclasts. So how is it possible for the body that the same calcium ion which is send for one particular assignment is not mixed with a calcium ion sent for a different assigment and there are trillions of them in the body. As you may know we can store or code information in the magnetic field of credit cards or key cards etc so that they can only initiate a process when they are properly decoded. Dr Gorgun states that the same applies to calcium ions where information can be stored or coded into the electrostatic field of the calcium ion. However due to some malfunctioning processes when we absorb calcium, the amount of information that can be stored in a calcium ion is reduced. As a consequence such calcium ions cannot be coded properly by the cells in order to participate in the bone remodelling process. Therefore even if osteoporosis patients are given additional calcium, such calcium cannot be used in the bone remodelling process. The GEMM Device first regulates the malfunctioning calcium metabolism and also normalizes the elctrostatic field of the calcium ions in the body. Following the therapy within a year the bone mineral densities of the osteoporotic patients normalizes, irrespective of their initial value.

Finally we completely agree with the cellular biologist that if the cells can communicate properly most diseases will disappear. But most cell biologists believe that the cellular communication is predominantly biochemical. Dr. Gorgun believes that cellular communication is predominantly electromagnetic (specifically via magnetic photon waves but this would be a very complex issue to describe here). GEMM restores proper cellular communication via low power radio waves at specific resonant frequencies of the target molecules. In that respect it is also completely different from the Kanzius system which utilizes the radio waves to heat up and destroy cancer cells and certain other PEMF -Pulsed ElectroMagnetic Field- devices that tries to increase the transmembrane potential of the whole cell.

GEMM Is not in America and it will not be in the America anytime soon as we do not have the resources to conduct the clinical trials required by the FDA to obtain Premarket Clearence. It is however a CE Certified System and used in various clinics in Italy and in Turkey over 20 years to treat a variety of diseases.
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Involved with GEMM Therapy a safe, non-invasive, effective treatment alternative for cancer.

GEMM device generates radio waves at selective frequencies to directly communicate with target proteins in the cancer cells that leads to apoptosis and necrosis.

florist · Guest

This information is so interesting. Radio Waves targeting cancer. You know with me, I have enjoyed the search. I have also met many people who have come out of cancer with a supplement that causes the cells to communicate. The thing that was so hard for everyone to understand was people coming out of too many diseases. Myself, I believe it is the aloe within the product and the reason aloe does not work off the shelves in the store is because aloe has to be stablized quickly due to the plant itself. (To long to go into here)

But I wondered why so many people came out of cancer and tests would show no cancer but then the cancer would return, if they did not stay on the products. My question was why. I do not have the answer but I will continue looking.

In America though, you cannot say supplements heal and I bet the GEMM will not be allowed as in the early 1900 pharmacutical companies took over the medical community and only drugs from that point on could be used. With GEMM, it is not food or drug and so I think you may be barking up the wrong tree with the FDA. But then you get into the DESHEA Act which after passed caused discovery to be hidden.

Also, greed, which makes me mad. Companies buying the supplement, taking 1/10 of the actual product and putting into containers that look like the real thing but adding other products. Anyway, won't go into that.

I think the hidden thing is in the Bible and I think it is interesting that GEMM uses sound waves. There is scriptures about aloe but also about sound and I will begin again there.

Not sure if this will help but I do know there is no regulation on radio waves in America unless you say it can heal. You might be better serving people if it were put into a spa setting - and even though you know what it does to help the body - you would need to go in a totally different direction. Maybe wellness from sound.

florist · Guest

Years ago, when my children were young, all of a sudden, everytime we turned on the TV or tried to use the telephone, this voice would come into our home. The person who was speaking was so lost and would use the Lord's name in vain every other sentence.

The problem was we did not know how this was happening. I called the city office as I thought it was coming from cable TV and getting into the line somehow. But NO. After my friends came over and heard and also my family heard while on the phone we discovered the neighbor had a short wave radio in his home turned up very high and he would talk to people across the nation.

So I asked him to stop as his words were bad for our family and asked him to turn down the amount. He just laughed. I called the FCC because they are suppose to control radio waves and they could not do anything by law. Then a friend came over and said my house needed to be grounded. He and my husband did something outside to ground the house and it stopped.

I do not know if my neighbor was upset that we could hear his conversations but he did move.

samilozavar · New User Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 5

[quote="florist"]This information is so interesting. Radio Waves targeting cancer. You know with me, I have enjoyed the search. I have also met many people who have come out of cancer with a supplement that causes the cells to communicate. The thing that was so hard for everyone to understand was people coming out of too many diseases. Myself, I believe it is the aloe within the product and the reason aloe does not work off the shelves in the store is because aloe has to be stablized quickly due to the plant itself. (To long to go into here)

But I wondered why so many people came out of cancer and tests would show no cancer but then the cancer would return, if they did not stay on the products. My question was why. I do not have the answer but I will continue looking.

In America though, you cannot say supplements heal and I bet the GEMM will not be allowed as in the early 1900 pharmacutical companies took over the medical community and only drugs from that point on could be used. With GEMM, it is not food or drug and so I think you may be barking up the wrong tree with the FDA. But then you get into the DESHEA Act which after passed caused discovery to be hidden.

Also, greed, which makes me mad. Companies buying the supplement, taking 1/10 of the actual product and putting into containers that look like the real thing but adding other products. Anyway, won't go into that.

I think the hidden thing is in the Bible and I think it is interesting that GEMM uses sound waves. There is scriptures about aloe but also about sound and I will begin again there.

Not sure if this will help but I do know there is no regulation on radio waves in America unless you say it can heal. You might be better serving people if it were put into a spa setting - and even though you know what it does to help the body - you would need to go in a totally different direction. Maybe wellness from sound.[/quote]

The comment I can make regarding the supplement is as follows:

Please note that all molecules are made up of atoms and their subatomic particles. They all have a surrounding electrostatic field due to the movement of their negative (such as spinning electrons) and positive charges. Based on their structure molecules may emit radio waves. There is a huge amount of interaction between all molecules via radio waves. However according to Dr Gorgun this has been done by magnetic photon waves that has almost no energy so such communication is almost impossible to detect with current sensor systems.

There might be a possibility that the said supplement has such a molecular structure where it emits radio waves that has some beneficial effects on certain malfunctioning processes of the cells but this area need to be thoroughly researched.

Regarding your comments on GEMM, the device is not emitting sound waves but very low power magnetic photon waves that are different from each other. If you are interested I can send a comprehensive overview of the technology to your e-mail.

All the best,
Samil
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Electronics Engineer

Involved with GEMM Therapy a safe, non-invasive, effective treatment alternative for cancer.

GEMM device generates radio waves at selective frequencies to directly communicate with target proteins in the cancer cells that leads to apoptosis and necrosis.

florist · Guest

on this. I am still trying to figure out how one emails another but I hope you already know.

You know after searching the body's immune system, I noticed there were other ingredients mentioned in the Bible including Cassia, which is cinnamon and isn't it interesting how much now is on the internet about this helping with heart disease.

Also, another thing that really stood out was if Grandma as missing a certain item, then Mom was and explains why so many babies now have cancer. It is like a terrible drop in the immune systems.

Another interesting fact in America is that no one thinks a thing about the amount of chemicals in the home (I even used them on my children's bedding - thinking I was being a good Mom - toys, baby bed, etc) not knowing our skin was the body's largest organ and absorbs that stuff. One perticular product was Lysol and oh my word - lysol is dangerous around horses much less my babies.

Anyway, please send what you have. I am only a florist but I do want to see if I can understand.

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